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Unread postPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 7:52 am 
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Hello,

We want to buy a new server to build vps hosting for clients.
I know that Openvz can't use the asl kernel! and can't run windows
So i like to know what's is the best way to setting a vps hosting with the asl kernel.
Xen will provide windows also and it can load the asl kernel?
But use Xen a shared kernel or every account a own kernel?

What is the best way and the most secure way to setup a dedicated server for vps hosting?


Thanx in advanced


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 Post subject: Re: Vps hosting
Unread postPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 10:11 am 
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Hmmmm....

If you don't want to go OpenVZ/Virtuozzo (which is actually the best option in terms of resource usage) then VMWare is the most mature, professional option (IMHO but I'd be greatful for other views).

Remember that it isn't enough to offer a customer an SSH login. You need to provide them with a Console (to reboot, see errors, reimage, whatever), a backup solution, and all sorts of other things.

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 Post subject: Re: Vps hosting
Unread postPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 10:14 am 
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p.s. I have no idea if VMWare offers a per-user console or any other options aimed at VPS provieders, out of the box or through third parties etc etc etc

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 Post subject: Re: Vps hosting
Unread postPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 11:59 am 
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KVM would be the other option, its just like vmware but built natively into the linux kernel. They added support to it in RHEL/CentOS 5.4 if I recall correctly.

Internally we replaced our vmware servers with it, and it has both web (ovirt) and desktop (virt-manager/libvirt) clients.

You can also run ASL as a xen guest (they have a funny name for it that I cant ever remember)


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 Post subject: Re: Vps hosting
Unread postPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 8:36 pm 
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Proxmox may therefore be a great option, combining KVM with OpenVZ.

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 Post subject: Re: Vps hosting
Unread postPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 5:26 am 
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OpenNode looks similar to Proxmox, but is based on CentOS instead of Debian.

http://opennode.activesys.org/

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 Post subject: Re: Vps hosting
Unread postPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 8:14 am 
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Thinking about it, the big problem with either of these projects is what happens if they stop being maintained.

The kernel is the OpenVZ kernel modified to support KVM, which means that if the project gets abandoned then you are out in the cold. This is far too risky for commercial VPS hosting.

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Unread postPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 8:51 am 
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Well, it's all just OpenVZ/Xen/KVM underneath, so I guess you could always move your virtual machines to another setup that uses the same technology.

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Unread postPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2011 11:50 am 
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Very true.

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